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Is mixed-use zoning ahead for suburbs?
Lancaster New Era
Published: Oct 18, 2006
13:28 EST
By David O'connor

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QUOTE(Mansfield @ Oct 19 2006, 08:40 AM)

First, I'm glad there are thoughtful residents who follow zoning and planning in their community.That said, I'm not sure what is meant by "forced to make", in reference to any current or future zoning changes? EHT, along with many others, has entered into agreements to create Urban Growth Boundaries to "draw the line" where development should and should not go, and in EHT, all that lovely green AH is on the other side of RT 283, and currently outside the UGB.

Which isn't to say the UGB can't and shouldn't change. Thats another issue.


I just don't know enough about how existing zoning and approved land uses get changed. I was assuming that it had to do with lawyers (working for the developers) "helping" these little municipalities make the changes. By enacting change in land-use rules for the little light brown areas it will allow the developer's lawyers to move forward with "helping" the govt. action the same zoning and land use changes (mixed-use allowed) to the light green areas.

Isn't that how it works ? I know that EHT will have "public" meetings, but by the time any public meetings are held to discuss zoning changes, it usually seems to be a done deal.

I was talking about the big blobs of light green. It is called AH Agricultural Holding. This land is INSIDE the urban growth area. There is a 300 acre chunk bounded by State Road, Harrisburg Pike, and South Colebrook, that needs zoning change just like the change discussed in this article.
DimBulb
QUOTE(Mansfield @ Oct 19 2006, 08:40 AM)


First, I'm glad there are thoughtful residents who follow zoning and planning in their community.That said, I'm not sure what is meant by "forced to make", in reference to any current or future zoning changes? EHT, along with many others, has entered into agreements to create Urban Growth Boundaries to "draw the line" where development should and should not go, and in EHT, all that lovely green AH is on the other side of RT 283, and currently outside the UGB.

Which isn't to say the UGB can't and shouldn't change. Thats another issue.


The dark green (Northeast of 283) is ag. The Ag Holding in light green, just this side of 283, and it's what we are talking about. This is where a mixed used concept is planned for Charter's "Independence". Granting in a small area of Rohrerstown in the really the first step in that process, and that's what the bruhaha is all about.

anonymouse
QUOTE(anonymouse @ Oct 19 2006, 09:45 AM)


The dark green (Northeast of 283) is ag. The Ag Holding in light green, just this side of 283, and it's what we are talking about. This is where a mixed used concept is planned for Charter's "Independence". Granting in a small area of Rohrerstown in the really the first step in that process, and that's what the bruhaha is all about.

Sorry, you are both correct. I looked quickly at the first map, saw all the green, and knew from the past that was all ag and outside the UGB, forgetting about the AH INSIDE the UGB slated for mixed use, New Urban development.
I know the big project at H Pike and State was already discussed on LOL;

this article seems to be about rezoning existing built-up areas in the town center. Is the concern that one leads to or facilitates the other type or area of rezoning?

Mansfield
QUOTE(Mansfield @ Oct 19 2006, 12:08 PM)

Is the concern that one leads to or facilitates the other type or area of rezoning?


That's what I was thinking. From the article:
The East Hempfield move would apply for now only to the township’s eight C-1 “local commercial” zones, comprising 69 acres, mostly in downtown areas of Landisville, Rohrerstown and smaller village areas.


Hey, I'll support Independence if they construct and pay for their own on-and-off cloverleaf to 283, at South Colebrook Road. A new Colebrook/Independence Interchange would need to improve South Colebrook Road into a 4-lane divided parkway between Harrisburg Pike, and State Street. Then you could limit access (eliminate left-hand on/off) at the existing State Road/283 mess. All the new traffic from 300 acres of mixed-use development would then be able to gridlock in front of Charter's other new development - "Veranda" ( at Hbg Pike).
DimBulb
QUOTE(Mansfield @ Oct 19 2006, 12:08 PM)
Is the concern that one leads to or facilitates the other type or area of rezoning?

Exactly.

anonymouse
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