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Lancaster New Era
Published: Dec 26, 2007
11:44 EST
Lancaster
By BERNARD HARRIS, Staff

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QUOTE(littledutchboy @ Dec 27 2007, 12:52 PM)
That would be average sale price not average property value, two completely different things.
I don't' doubt that city property values have increased in recent years after all a rising county tide raises all real estate values including Lancaster city's values.
Don't forget Lancaster city includes Lancaster city annex areas! Eden Manor, Conestoga Landing and BLVD
The MLS reports 297 listings in L city with a mean asking price of $89,900
Sales in L city in past 12 mo's = 813 the sales are arrayed by list price not sale price, the mean # 407 was listed for $65K and sold for 55K, #407 was also listed for $65K and sold for 68.1K……owner paid closing costs?...probably.
The inclusion of L city annex will tilt the #'s to the high side.
You know what the say about numbers? If you torture them long and hard enough you can make them say anything! LNP knows how to torture real good!
Where in the world did you find all of this sales information at??
dodgecrew
QUOTE(littledutchboy @ Dec 27 2007, 12:52 PM)
You know what the say about numbers? If you torture them long and hard enough you can make them say anything! LNP knows how to torture real good!
Thank you VERY much for the MLS data! I don't have regular access.

Rick Gray has claimed repeatedly - and still does - that real estate prices jumped 15% in downtown Lancaster after the convention center construction bonds were sold. Some weeks later, a friend let me see the Lancaster MLS listings. It quickly became obvious that there was no evidence whatsoever to support Gray's claims. To make matters worse, very few of the properties that DID sell in Lancaster City went for the asking price. I was told that even now downtown properties on the market aren't moving very fast.

I had figured that this was yet another bogus "rah-rah" claim by Rick Gray.
Thank you VERY much for confirming this for all of us!.
Artie See
QUOTE(Nativeson @ Dec 27 2007, 12:13 AM)


I notice the new street running between Hazel and Seymour Streets isn't on the list. The city provided incentives to lure businesses in there and put curbing, sidewalks and new pavement in. One older building was purchased and completely refurbished and now has a Forsale sign in front of it. There's a story there, there has to be.


There is some planned development in the area bounded by Fairview Avenue and Seymour, just north of the AMVETS property. The plan is still "in process" and won't be public for a while yet.

I believe the street you're referring to is South Water Street. This area is long overdue for some development and would be beneficial for the city.

The mayor is having a series of Community Meetings beginning in January. The first one is January 10 at Lancaster Rec Commission. That would be an opportunity to ask about what's happening in this area.
Kate
QUOTE(Artie See @ Dec 27 2007, 04:18 PM)
Thank you VERY much for the MLS data! I don't have regular access.

Rick Gray has claimed repeatedly - and still does - that real estate prices jumped 15% in downtown Lancaster after the convention center construction bonds were sold. Some weeks later, a friend let me see the Lancaster MLS listings. It quickly became obvious that there was no evidence whatsoever to support Gray's claims. To make matters worse, very few of the properties that DID sell in Lancaster City went for the asking price. I was told that even now downtown properties on the market aren't moving very fast.

I had figured that this was yet another bogus "rah-rah" claim by Rick Gray.
Thank you VERY much for confirming this for all of us!.

some say values in the county increased 40% or more in the past 4 years which would increase city values as well

littledutchboy
QUOTE(littledutchboy @ Dec 27 2007, 04:58 PM)
some say values in the county increased 40% or more in the past 4 years which would increase city values as well
On average, perhaps, but what happens when you break out the city data?
Artie See
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