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Indian site sold to couple
Intelligencer Journal
Published: Sep 21, 2007
00:57 EST
YORK COUNTY, Pa.
By JAMES BUESCHER, Correspondent

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QUOTE(Whirlwind @ Sep 21 2007, 11:21 AM)
I know I don't have $1.5 M around. I also know I don't have a casino. Wait, wasn't W&S on the Historical Register? And it may turn into a casino. Maybe we should worry the Indian burial ground will become a casino! <sarcasm.

If a casino did go up, it would hardly make a dent in the apology owed for the genocide of Native Americans.
QUOTE(shanek @ Sep 21 2007, 11:57 AM)

In regards specifically to Susquehannock indians owning casinos, googling around doesn't turn up any Susquehannock indians with deep pockets from casino revenues.

Because there are no Susquehannock Indians. They were all slaughtered by the Paxton brothers.

WordoftheLord
"If a casino did go up, it would hardly make a dent in the apology owed for the genocide of Native Americans."
Did that make you feel better? Have you heard of Lewis and Clark? Have you heard they wintered with Indians? The Mandan, or White Indians. The history you think you know so well is rendered lame by new discoveries as well.
There are pertoglyphs in the Susquehanna that the first White men in the area assumed were done by the natives. When asked about them, they confided that they didn't know who carved them, as they were there when their ancestors arrived in the area. A significant crack in the Indian as oldest resident theory. The SW has the Anasazi. Another crack.
How would you regard the Indians if you learned they had subsumed a prior population, the very charge they level?

Whirlwind
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We buried a rabbit that had died out behind our house along the edge of the field. Does this mean that I am not allowed to construct anything there? Since I was possibly considering putting up a shed, I certainly do not want anyone protesting because my building plans will offend the memory of our beloved "Bugs".......


Um, maybe you've been watching too many cartoons, but people are different than rabbits.

Let's try a different for instance exercise:

Let's say you were a farmer, and your family had owned it's land for generations. Imagine that somewhere back in that history, your family used a certain spot to bury their passed-on relatives. Maybe you have no children to pass this land on to, so you sell it when you get into your seventies because you can't keep up with the property. Then, the new owners decide to put a chicken shack right over that burial ground, despite the fact that they knew your ancestors were buried there. Maybe you wouldn't be bothered by this since, after all, it's the constitutional right of the new owners to deposit chicken crap all over that spot. I'd bet it would.

You say "Ah! I'd put a stipulation about no chicken shacks over my ancestors' burial ground in the sales agreement!" Well, the people who certain people in this forum have somehow dubbed "whiners" were not given that option.
shanek
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Because there are no Susquehannock Indians. They were all slaughtered by the Paxton brothers.

Who are the Paxton brothers....the murderers of the Susquehannock Indians in lancaster were the Paxtang Boys.

The following was submitted by "LittleDutchBoy" in 2005:
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Page 376 from the book "History of the Church of the Brethren – Eastern PA".
Copyright 1915
About 1760 John Zug and his wife went with her father to the beaver valley, now part of Dauphin Co. Pa., near beaver station where he had taken up a large tract of land, and where he promised to give them a farm to clean of brush and timber; but in 1762 the Tuscarora Indians from the valley up the river became so dangerous by murder, and arson, and robbery that by fall they decided to go back to White Oak until life became safe again. So in that fall one morning they started on foot with their two children each carrying one. After going a little way they saw a man lying in a buckwheat patch dead. He shouldered the man, who was still warm, and took him to the next house.

Things in Paxtang and Beaver Valley grew worse instead of better, and in 1763 a number of young and middle-aged men organized themselves into a company, and assumed the name, "Paxtang Boys" for the purpose of revenge. But the Indians learned of it, and went to an Indian town in Manor Twp., about 6 miles South west of Lancaster, whence the Paxtang Boys trailed them, but the marauders got wind of their coming and left. The Indians misdirected the gang, who essayed to follow, so to give the fugitives time to escape. When the neighbors learned of the trick the Indians were placed in the Lancaster Workhouse for their protection, but the Paxtang Boys came back, burned the Indian village, broke into the workhouse, and killed every Indian.



wonderwoman
QUOTE(shanek @ Sep 21 2007, 11:57 AM)

One thing the article doesn't tell us is when it was made known publicly that the auction would happen. How long was the time in between the "whiners" finding out and the actual auction date? Was it long enough to raise $1.5 million? Given that most well-established charities have a difficult time raising this kind of money, what makes you think these 20 "whiners" could have in the intervening time - even with vision, thought, and work?

My problem is that the Constitution as interpreted by people like RonHarper is always in favor with people holding the largest amount of money.

The point about casinos is potentially a fair one. I don't particularly like the idea of building casinos to solve Indian problems with money. Too often, the money ends up being controlled by a small subset of powerful people within the tribe. In regards specifically to Susquehannock indians owning casinos, googling around doesn't turn up any Susquehannock indians with deep pockets from casino revenues.


Check out The Millionaire Next Door

(Another read you might want to check out is Wealth of Nations)

This 1.5 mil is really nothing in the way of fund raising if presented right. This is 2007 so the American way is the only way to make it happen. The constitution EMPOWERS people to do things and not sit around waiting for someone else to do it.

rh

RonHarper
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